2010年12月3日 星期五

舞出堅強的自我! – 專訪Elizabeth Strong

Q. 對妳而言,怎樣的演出才會讓妳滿意?

要對自己的演出真正感到滿意是很少發生的。對我來說,當音樂、觀眾、舞者的感受如出一轍,就是我覺得滿意的時候。當然,這不是每次都會發生的事情。在某種程度而言,當我知道我已經盡我的全力去做到最好,那我就會感到開心了。如果觀眾不是太熱情,或是演出我較不熟悉的表演,或是音樂不夠大聲,或是因某種原因,使得我的身心不太緊繫著彼此時,我起碼瞭解自己,身為一個表演者,我必須要盡己之力做到最好。只要我知道我盡力了,我也就對得起自己了。


Q. 在表演前妳有沒有什麼特別的習慣或儀式呢?

在表演前,我會伸展我的臀部、背部、以及肩頸。接著我會找到自我的平靜,冷靜、聚集精力,全神貫注於我在舞台的中央。我希望在表演開始前,不論何時,可以站在舞台上或是觀眾中間以獲得兩種不同的透視。最後,我以瑜珈的姿勢做深呼吸,想像有道耀眼的藍光照在我的心中,一束紅色的光芒投射於心,當我站在舞台上時,我知道演出將會受到情緒上的影響而混亂,所以在那當下我會盡我最大的努力,做最好的表演!


Q. 你認為舞者與舞團間是怎麼樣的關係?對於一個舞者來說,加入舞團比獨自一人好嗎?

對於獨立舞者或進入舞團,這可以從很多角度去看待。我認為最重要得是妳要有自主權能與你喜歡的老師們學習,以及能否與妳共舞的舞者們盡興地跳舞,這些都會影響妳對於藝術的啟發與創作。所以加入舞團與否,即是次要得了。


Q. 妳最喜歡的教學經驗是什麼?是什麼讓它對妳來說這麼特別?

第一次在歐洲的教學經驗令我印象十分深刻。我從未當抵達一個不熟悉的地方而必須馬上開始跳舞時,竟是這麼有能量的。那裡的學生對與我的教學非常興奮,也非常感謝我的到來。


Q: 專業的舞者與業餘的舞者有什麼不同?要怎麼樣才能成為一位專業的舞者?

專業舞者與業餘舞者最大的差別在於舞者對自身的期許。我一個最好的老師,她選擇成為一位業餘的舞者,她傾向擁有一份固定的工作收入,可以預期的行程,然後單純的跳舞,只希望她愛跳舞,而不需要將舞蹈變成財務上的支柱。即使她教導出很多當今頗具名氣的學生,包含我、Mira BetzZoe Jakes

而要成為專業的舞者,我的建議是先尋找自己並且問自己想要的究竟是什麼?這會幫助你解決在成為專業舞者路途中的許多不安因素。換句話說,擁有怎樣的學習進程就會造就你擁有怎樣的獨特經歷。記得去想像成功的果實嘗起來是如何甜美 (即使離成功還很遙遠),這會幫助你更容易、更快速達到目標。


Q: 在舞蹈圈子裡,有沒有什麼是妳不喜歡的?

肚皮舞圈不像是我所認知的舞蹈產業一般,而這個社群也不斷地在發展、強大。至於肚皮舞圈,我不喜歡的是製片商竟能利用這個有限的機會市場中不斷產生激烈的競爭。舉例來說,舞者不但將是免費在DVD裡演出,也沒有版稅,然後又花錢去買DVD來銷售。結果這DVD是讓製片商的口袋滿滿,而舞者卻只能收支打平、甚至賠錢。

我們可以學習精明的商界人士,可以像是一個聯盟,且記住合理的報酬與尊重的對待會是更好的方式,這是有益於一個產業的健全發展的,同時富有想像力及創造新的、不同的機會,讓舞者擁有更多元的收益,扶植藝術產業。


Q: 什麼是妳下個階段想要挑戰、嘗試的?

我很興奮我準備要發行我個人首張教學DVD「向伊莉莎白習土耳其羅馬舞蹈」。我自己獨立發行本張DVD,所以這真的是個很大的挑戰!除此之外,我也正在準備明年一月份與Samantha EmanuelZoe Jakes一同演出,並使用我男友Dan Cantrell所寫得音樂來編舞中,實在是令人興奮!




關於 Elizabeth Strong

Elizabeth Strong 是一位終身的舞者,年輕時即接觸巴爾幹與中東音樂和舞蹈,並從加州民俗團體中脫穎而出。除了在灣區學習超過十年以上,她的進修之路同時也深入到土耳其與埃及,到當地學習舞蹈技巧。她是Reyhan Tuzsuz在伊斯坦堡的第一位學生,同時也向Sahra Saeeda學習舞蹈與文化。

ElizabethAywah團體的前主要成員!這是一個致力於北非、巴爾幹半島、中東宗教音樂與舞蹈的民俗舞蹈團體,她也是與Toids一起的「The Pogonometric Revue」團體中的統籌,Rachel Brice Mardi Love則曾是Ultra Gypsy的編舞與統籌。Elizabeth則在20082009年與Bellydance Superstars一同表演,近期則是於Jillina Carlano所領導的Belly Dance Evolution成員之一,並且也與Zoe Jakes一同與Beats Antique合作。


感謝Wei-Lin協助編譯本篇採訪!






Dance in a Strong way! – Interview with Elizabeth Strong




Q: What needs to happen that makes you satisfied with a performance ?

Feeling truly satisfied with my own performance these days is a rare occurrence! For me it is when the music, the dance and the audience feel as one - and of course that doesn't happen every time. I always feel good on some level knowing that I gave my best performance given the circumstances. If the audience was unenthusiastic, or I was performing something less familiar to me, or the music wasn't loud enough, or I was not feeling as connected to my body for whatever reason, I have at least come to know myself well enough as a performer to know when I am doing my personal best. As long as I know that I can feel satisfied. 


Q: Do you have a special ritual before a performance ?

Before I perform, I stretch my hips, back, neck and shoulders. Then I get quiet with myself and gather my energy and envision being in my center and projecting my energy to the back of the room (I like to stand on the stage and in the audience to gain both perspectives whenever I can before a show). Finally I use a yogi visualization of breathing deeply while envisioning a bright blue light in the center of my heart, a white light in the center of my head, and a red light essence in the center of the pelvic bowl. Once I step onstage I know the performance will be chaos in motion and I give in to the moment as best I can!


Q: How do you think the relationship between a dancer and a troupe? Is it better for a dancer to join one rather than alone?

Whether to it is best to dance alone or with a troupe depends on so many things. I am thinking that it is important to have the freedom to take from as many teachers as you would like, and to be able to dance with other people you enjoy being around, who inspire you to make art. Whether you do that with a local troupe, or make it happen on your own is secondary.


Q: What was your favorite teaching experience ? What happened that made this one special ?

The first time I taught in Europe was really rewarding. Arriving someplace unfamiliar and immediately getting to share dance with people I had never met was energizing. The students were really excited to learn what I had to teach, and were very appreciative and welcoming. 


Q: How does a Professional dancer different from a hobbyist ? What must she do to make this transition to Professional ?

The only difference between a professional dancer and a hobbyist is the choice of which you wish to be. One of my greatest teachers was actually a hobbyist by choice. She liked having a regular income, a predictable schedule, and to dance simply because she loved it not because she needed dance for financial support. Meanwhile she fostered some of the big names on the circuit today including myself, Mira Betz, and Zoe Jakes.

In order to become a professional, my best advice is to first search yourself and ask yourself why you want it. That will strengthen your resolve as you go through uncertain times while pursuing dance as a profession. Then take the leap. How you go about paving your path is sure to be a unique experience to you. Be fair minded and remember that there IS enough success to go around (even if it really feels like there isn't!). This will make your path MUCH smoother and your rise to success quicker.


Q: Is there something about the dance industry that you Don't like ?

The belly dance industry is a world apart from what I think of as the "dance industry" and our little community is growing larger and evolving all the time. As for the belly dance industry, I don't like the fact that producers are able to capitalize on so much competition around a limited number of opportunities. For example, dancers will perform on a DVD for next to nothing and no royalties, then pay to buy those DVDs to sell, making even more money for the producer of that DVD while the dancer might only break even, or worse, spend more than she made. 

We can think more like savvy business people, and think more like a union, remembering that standing up for reasonable pay and respectful treatment is better for everyone. It is beneficial, too, to be imaginative and create new and different opportunities to make money as dancers.


Q: What is the next challenge you would like to try?

I am really excited to release my first instructional DVD "Turkish Roman Dance with Elizabeth Strong". I am producing it myself, so that has been quite a challenge! Beyond that, I am developing choreography to music written by my boyfriend, Dan Cantrell, for a show in January with Samantha Emanuel and Zoe Jakes. I am really excited about that!


About Elizabeth Strong

Elizabeth Strong is a life long dancer, raised in the folk communities of California, where she was exposed to music and dance of the Balkans and Middle East from a young age. In addition to over a decade of study in the Bay Area, She has traveled and studied dance ethnology in Turkey and Egypt, the first student of Reyhan Tuzsuz in Istanbul, and student of Sahra Saeeda in Egyptian dance and culture.

Elizabeth is former primary member of Aywah! Ethnic Dance Company, a troupe devoted to regional dances and music of North Africa, the Balkans and the Middle East. She was a collaborative member of “The Pogonometric Revue” with the Toids, Rachel Brice and Mardi Love, and a choreographer and collaborator for the last Undulation performed by Ultra Gypsy. Elizabeth performed with the Bellydance Superstars in 2008 and 2009, and is currently a part of Jillina Carlano’s new production, Belly Dance Evolution, as well as Zoe Jakes’ dance company for Beats Antique.





2010年11月3日 星期三

第一位在亞洲巡迴的佛朗明哥舞蹈家- Clara Ramona

Clara Ramona是一位曼妙又極具生命力的舞蹈家,她精通於西班牙舞蹈和佛朗明哥,不論是在舞蹈表演、編舞、指導、製片、或是教學上。

她從五歲即在她的家鄉菲律賓開始學習芭蕾以及傳統舞蹈,並且也花了數年的時間在學習現代、爵士、西班牙古典舞蹈以及佛朗明哥。

由於她全方位的訓練,Clara Ramona開創了她在美國成為專業舞者的職業生涯,在德洛斯雷耶斯拉蒙西班牙舞蹈劇場成為領舞以及編舞者。

接著她進一步與各方大師們推廣她對於西班牙古典舞蹈以及佛朗明哥的鑽研,如在波士頓的德洛斯雷耶斯拉蒙、墨西哥的馬諾洛維加斯和安東尼科爾多瓦、西班牙的西羅、香格里拉塔蒂、何格拉內羅、馬德里和托馬斯等。(名字為音譯暫翻)


肚皮舞 V.S 佛朗明哥

肚皮舞與佛朗明哥這兩種舞蹈有些共通點:例如都有自己的節奏,並且舞者都會在手上拿著樂器搭配舞蹈。但差異性在哪呢?
Clara 說明她的看法:「兩者都很有節奏性。對我來說,佛朗明哥不僅是有節奏性,舞者同時也透過他們腳步踢躂與拍手在創造更多的音符、節奏與音樂。因此,佛朗明哥舞者不只是舞在節奏上,更是在節奏上創造音樂及節奏。舞者也相對地更需要有更多的樂性,使她們得以能夠創造出美妙的音樂來搭配他們的舞蹈。舉例來說,對一場完美的佛朗明哥表演而言,肢體的重要性佔表演整體的50%,另外關鍵的50%則是舞者腳底下踢躂踢躂所創造出的樂符。」

關於樂器,肚皮舞者有指鈸,佛朗明哥則有響板。在 Clara 的經驗來說,她認為響板具有較多的變化性,舞者每隻手都可以利用大拇指外的四隻手指頭來作運用,盡他們所能創造出更多的聲音。


與「現場音樂」齊舞

在大多的佛朗明哥表演中,我們多半可看到樂團與歌手是必備的要件。「和樂團一同演出是佛朗明哥這個舞蹈的天性。事實上,真正的佛朗明哥舞者是必須要與吉他手、歌手、專業拍掌者以及近來的木箱這幾個元素一起搭配的。舞者與樂手的現場互動,加上舞者也在創造節奏,使得現場為之亢奮與激昂。也因為現場樂團的同步演出,使得舞者與音樂家的樂曲兩者間更有連結性,使這一切更完整!」 Clara 解釋著。

「但事實是,如果妳沒有在擁有現場音樂的環境下接受訓練,要擁有良好的樂性或可與樂團有良好的互動,都是具有相當難度的。」 Clara進一步說明:「例如佛朗明哥,對於不在西班牙的舞者來說,就會相當的困難,因為很難可以有這樣的環境,那也將會是對舞者的一項挑戰。」


所有舞蹈的基礎:芭蕾

根據 Clara 的學習過程與經驗告訴她,對任何舞者來說,芭蕾是非常重要的,不只是對佛朗明哥重要而已。芭蕾是所有舞蹈的基礎。
Clara同時是一位受到良好訓練的芭蕾舞者。她同時也相信,她能夠轉換到佛朗明哥舞蹈如此容易是因為她的芭蕾訓練。「但這不是說,一位芭蕾舞者就可以轉變成一位真正的佛朗明哥舞者,而是說芭蕾可以提供很大的協助。甚至現在,我依然在給自己芭蕾的訓練讓我可以維持現況。」

「但是如果妳問來自巴塞隆納或是西班牙的佛朗明哥舞者,他們大抵會跟你說,『喔!芭蕾對佛朗明哥不好。』但事實上,在那裡,很多專業或知名的佛朗明哥,其實都是接受了很多芭蕾訓練。他們不想提及此的原因,是因為多半大家都喜歡說佛朗明哥來自於平民文化。

恩,是沒錯,但也不代表那是唯一一個成為佛朗明哥舞者的方式。對我來說,我相信妳擁有更多的舞蹈訓練,妳也會是個更豐富的舞者。妳會有更多的辭彙(肢體語言)來表現妳的感受,來呈現妳的故事。

「換句話說,每種舞蹈都需要有新的注入,否則它不會成長。對於舞者也是!如果一個舞者只會跳一種舞蹈,那他將會變得了無新意,觀眾也會變得意興闌珊。而若你要進步,就必須要有資訊的來源。我的經驗告訴我,芭蕾可以讓我更有彈性及創意,也可讓舞者的路更長久。」Clara解釋:「舉例來說,如果一個肚皮舞者只跳肚皮舞,且不加上任何其他元素,也不做其他的進修,我相信她很會就會厭倦,不會她是個多棒的舞者。


舞者、舞蹈家、編舞家

Clara 分享了她對於「舞者」與「舞蹈藝術家」的觀點:「一位舞者當他學會了某項專長後,他不會想要再學習新的。而一位舞蹈藝術家則是知道如何超越自己,不只是舞蹈;他會想要給予觀眾更多,想要表達更多,相對地他們的舞蹈生涯也較為長遠。人們常說,藝術家就像是好的紅酒,年份越老,越香醇。」

「這世界上有很多的舞者,但是很可惜只有少數的舞蹈藝術家。對於這些藝術家們的觀察,我相信,多半是上天賜給的天賦。你需要擁有成為藝術加的潛質,不是每個人都可以成為藝術家的。那不是你持續跳舞然後某一天你就可以自動變成一位藝術家。」Clara繼續說明:「一位藝術家像是與生俱來,或是你需要對一門舞蹈經過許多年的鑽研與經驗的累積,然後如果你具有相當的知識,並且持續進修、學習、創造更多,那你可能也有機會成為一位藝術家。」

不只是舞者就成為藝術家,一位優秀的表演者不一定是位稱職的老師;一位優秀的老師不見得是位傑出的表演者;同時,舞者不見得會是一位令人感動的編舞家,而或是編舞家可能不是位表演者。
Clara解釋:「編舞家與藝術家,多半都是與生俱來的天賦。這與創造力有關,而創造力多半都是從小就開始有些跡象,他們在小的時候就會開始創造一些什麼。也許也有可能在非常努力後成為一位編舞家,只是大多的例子都是天生的。

以我的例子來說,當別人問我,我何時開始成為一位編舞家時,我父親總是會說,我從二年級就開始編舞了,但我當下根本不知道我就是在編舞,一切自然而然的進行,我就是把一些舞蹈動作給組合了起來。」




音樂與日常生活是靈感的來源

那什麼是 Clara 的靈感來源呢?她坦承:「對我來說,音樂是非常重要的!當我聽到一首我喜歡的歌,我就會忍不住開始用這首歌來編舞。有時候生活中的體驗也是我的靈感來源。不論是好是壞,是開心還是沮喪。例如說,順遂時也許使你開心且富有創造力,而失落的心情可能會讓你的情感更細膩,擁有更多的情緒。」

「有一句話這麼說的:太陽底下沒有什麼新鮮事。每件事情都已經由某種方式在某處進行著,但你仍然可以改變它的顏色、調性、或節奏。就看你怎麼把他們結合起來。」Clara 說。

「因為對我來說非常重要的另一個原因是,當我們有些想法之後,接著就是要花許多時間去尋找合適的音樂,除非你很幸運地有音樂家在你身旁。

我沒有特別喜好哪種類型的音樂,如果真的選擇,我會說西班牙音樂。但事實上,我可以在許多形態的音樂中發現西班牙的元素。我不知道這個影響從哪兒來的,就這樣發生了。」 Clara 說明著。


東方 VS西方:關於教學

Clara 常在世界各地巡迴演出教學,她是否有發現在東西方間,有沒有什麼特別的或不同的呢?

Clara 闡述她的經驗談:「我覺得在教學上,因為亞洲的文化差異,使得學生相對比較害羞,所以在亞洲,教學會比較辛苦一點。例如在西方國家,人們很願意接受新的東西,也處於一個擁有較多音樂性或舞蹈性的環境裡,所以他們的心胸相對寬闊些、也較有樂性。亞洲學生起步較慢,比較難一點就通。但雖然如此,亞洲學生較為勤勞,他們總是很認真地練習,把不會的東西練到會,因此這也讓他們漸漸迎頭趕上。」

Clara住在美國與歐洲已經許多年,三個月前,她決定旅居在香港。「我曾經住在美國20年、西班牙15年,但我大多數的工作都在亞洲:台灣、香港、日本、上海……我覺得我可以給予亞洲更多的貢獻,並且我很喜歡亞洲。所以我開始試著待在亞洲,我一開始的時候是以菲律賓作為我的開始,接著現在搬到了香港。」Clare說。


東方 VS西方:關於觀眾

Clara說:「我記得我們教授曾經說過一個比喻:『在波士頓與紐約,如果波士頓的觀眾給你三個掌聲,代表你知道當你到了紐約你將會大受歡迎!』所以波士頓總是許多鉅作或是百老匯的作品的測試依據。倒不是說這百分百正確,但這同時也說明了你可能會因為觀眾沒有什麼反應而開始緊張。」
Clara進一步解釋:「舉例來說,我在倫敦也有過多次表演,而在倫敦,又是另一種方式。他們不會在表演的中間表現他們任何的感受,直到最後一刻,他們才會熱烈給予掌聲。所以從一開始到最後,你都會非常緊張地不知道他們喜不喜歡你的表演,你唯一要相信的就是,做到最好!接著最後你就會知道他們因你而瘋狂,然後你也會因此得到釋放。」

「但是在亞洲,」Clara坦承:「也許你會知道他們喜不喜歡你的表演,或是你永遠不會知道!!例如上次我在上海表演,直到演出結束我仍無法從觀眾的行為知道他們到底喜不喜歡我的表演。但事後,朋友告訴我上海的觀眾非常喜愛我的表演,我忍不這回問:『真的嗎?你確定嗎?』真的太難感受到了!」




大眾多半欠缺對藝術的評論價值與讚揚

Clara坦承,「在舞蹈圈中,有些東西是我不太欣賞的。例如說太多的政治關係,但我想每個產業都有這類似的問題;以及大眾多半缺乏對於藝術的欣賞與感謝,他們不在意藝術的品質。
對於藝術家來說,他們不是在銷售一個像是機器或是水果的產品,藝術是非常個人的東西,那是關於每個人的情感。人們常會輕忽了這點,只想到要花多少的錢。他們無法瞭解藝術的價值,或是你花了多少年在練習、投資在這項藝術上。而當人們邀請藝術家進行演出時,多半他們都不會想到這個,他們都只想到金錢。」
「事實上,他們應該思考!」Clara解釋:「10分鐘的演出,並不是一場演出的價值,事實上那是30年的功夫所累積的!他們不會看見這個的。相反地,當他們不著墨在費用上的爭論時,這同時也讓我感到欣慰,因為這也代表他們相信妳。」

「當然,令我欣慰的不都是金錢,有時候觀眾的讚揚也可讓我感到滿意。」Clara繼續說:「同時我也覺得西方的觀眾更會表達他們的讚許,在亞洲,觀眾多半比較安靜,也許是因為害怕,畢竟表達自己不是亞洲的文化。對舞者來說,相對在亞洲演出時,有時候較容易有失落感。亞洲的觀眾不太願意表達自己,或是他們也許不知道『如何』表達!」

Clara回想起:「幾年前,我在台灣有個經驗,當時我被邀請去教授一些基本的課程,而有一天的表演活動上,在我演出結束後,一位觀眾非常驚訝地跑來跟我說:『哇!我不知道你這麼厲害!我還以為你只會基本的佛朗明哥!』當時這件事情令我蠻失落的。有時候人們在學習初期就想直接學一些『困難』的東西,但事實上,他們根本還不懂其技巧與原理!我花了數年時間學習如何成為一位優秀的老師,並且我有自己的系統,我知道如何是對他們較好的,但他們可能只是就表象來評斷妳。」


Clara的下一個計劃:你永遠不知道!

Clara什麼是她下一個計劃:「藝術家是很難有滿足的一天的!」她說。「有些時候我是隨波逐流地靜觀將會發生什麼,舉例來說,現在我在香港,但是誰會知道未來會如何呢?你永遠無法知道下一秒中會發生什麼事情,每一天都在改變,對吧?就讓我們一起期待吧!!」







A True Artist – Interview with Clara Ramona



Clara Ramona is one of the most beautiful and dynamic artists in the world of Spanish dance and flamenco whether as a bailarina, or a bailaora, choreographer, director, producer or teacher.
She started studying Ballet, and traditional dance since the age of 5 in her native Philippines. Also spent years of studying in Modern dance, Jazz , Spanish classical dance and Flamenco. 

Owing to her thorough training, Clara developed her professional career in the United States as the lead dancer and choreographer in the Ramon de los Reyes Spanish Dance Theatre.
She furthered her studies of  Spanish classical and flamenco with masters such as Ramon de los Reyes in Boston, Manolo  Vargas and Antonio de Cordoba in Mexico and in Spain with Ciro, La Tati, Jose Granero, and Tomas de Madrid among others.


Bellydance V.S. Flamenco

What’s the difference between Bellydance and Flamenco for Clara since both dances have rhythms and instruments with dancers?

“Both are rhythmical. For me, Flamenco has Rhythms but dancers also create more beats, rhythms, music from their feet and hands clapping. Therefore, Flamenco dancers not only dance to the rhythms, but also create music on the top of rhythms and music. They will need more sense of musicality than other dancers to create music as well as movements.  For Flamenco, body is just 50% of a performance, creating beats and music by their feet is another 50% to complete a great Flamenco Performance.

About instruments, Belly dancers have Cymbals (also called Zills or Zagat) and Flamenco dancers have Castnuelas. In my experience, I feel that Castnuelas has more variety because dancers can use four fingers on each hand, and create more sounds as we can.” Clara says. 


Dance with Live Music

In most Flamenco performance, it would have live music and singer within it. “Dancing with live music is Flamenco’s neutrality. A truly flamenco performance should have live music. If you dance with recording, technically it is not Flamenco. Flamenco dancers need to dance with guitars, singer, Palmas (hands clapping), and lately Cajon (box-shaped percussion instrument). You create music as well as interaction between musicians and dancers, make it much more exciting. Also dancers and musicians are more related to each other. Make it complete.” Clara explains.

But the truth is if you were not surrounding with live music, it would be difficult to have good musicality dancing with live music” Clara says. For Flamenco, it is hard when you are outside Spain because you don’t have that environment. Then it becomes a challenge for dancers. Clara believes.


The Foundation of all Dances - Ballet

For Clara’s studies and experience, Ballet is very important to any dancer, not just for Flamenco dancers. Ballet is the foundation of all dances.
Clara was a well trained Ballet dancer. Also she believed her transition to Flamenco was very easily because of her Ballet training. But it doesn’t mean from Ballet you can become a truly Flamenco dancer. It just means Ballet can help you a lot. Even till now, I still does ballet class to keep her same shape.” Clara explains.

Clara confesses, “But if you ask Flamenco dancers from Andalucía or Spain, they may tell you, ‘Oh, Ballet is not good for Flamenco’. Actually, that’s not true. In fact, many professional or famous Flamenco dancers there, they studied lots of Ballet. Sometimes they don’t want to mention that because people usually like to say, Flamenco comes from the streets.

Well, it does. But it is not the only way to be a real Flamenco dancer.” Clara says. For me, I believe more dancing training you have, the richer dancer you are. You will have more vocabularies to express your feeling, to say your story.

In the other way, every dance needs new involved, or it won’t grow. For dancers too! If a dancer just can do one type of dance, he or she will get bored, and audience will get bored too. And also on the growing way, you will need information. In my experience, Ballet can help you more creative and flexible, also make you as longer,“ Clara says. “For example, if a belly dancer just do bellydance, and don’t add any elements or styles, or don’t study any other dances else, I believe you will get boring soon, no matter how good you are.”





Dancer, Artist, and Choreographer

Clara shares her views about what is the difference between a dancer and an artist, “A dancer won’t be more if they just do one thing.  An artist knows how to go beyond, not just dance. An artist can give people something more else, and have more expression; also they continue their dance journey longer. People said Artists are like good wine, when you get older, you will get better.”

“There are lots of dancers but few artists in this world. For me, I believe usually it’s a gift from God. You have to have that potential to be an artist. Not everybody can be an artist. It’ is not when you keep dancing and you will become an artist automatically,” Clara confesses. “An artist is like born with, or maybe you can become an artist by working on one dance style for many years, with years and year’s experience. If you have enough knowledge, also try to grow, try to learn more, try to develop more, you may also have chance to be an artist.”

Not just a dancer is not necessary an artist. A good performer is not necessary a good teacher. A good teacher is not necessary a good performer. Also, a good dancer/ performer is not necessary a good choreographer. Or a choreographer is not necessary a performer.

Clara explains, “Being a choreographer, just like an artist, it is more like born with. That is kind about creativity. Usually they start to create something when they were young. Maybe you can study very hard then become a choreographer, but I need to say most are born for it.”

In my case, when people asked me when I started to be choreographer, my father always said that I started from my second grade. Even I didn’t realize that is choreography in that time. I just did it with nature, combined dance movement together.“ Clara says.


Inspiration From Music and Life

What is the source of Clara’s inspiration? She confesses, “Music is a very important inspiration for me. When I listen a song and I like it, I can’t stop making choreography for it. Sometimes life experiences are also my sources of inspiration. No matter good time or bad time, happy or upset. For instance, good time may make you happy, and make you more creative; Depression mood may make you more emotional, have more passion.”

“Just like people said, there is nothing new under the sun. Everything is already done in some way, some how, or somewhere. But you still can change colors, tones, or rhythms. It will depend on how you put all together.“ Clara says.

“Music is VERY important also because when we have an idea, then we need to search and search a music to use, unless you are fortunately to have musicians around you.“
“I don’t have specific preference for music. If it really needs to choose, I will say Spanish. But the truth is I can find Spanish themes in many types of music. I don’t know what the influence comes from, it just happened to me.” Clara explains.


Dancers in Eastern V.S. Western

Since Clara travels around this world a lot, does she find out anything special or difference about students from Eastern to Western countries?

Clara confesses, “I feel like in Asia, it’s a bit more difficult to break down the barriers. It may course from their shyness and cultures. For instance, in western countries, people have more willing to try new things, expose more in music or dancing, they will have more open minded to learn and they are also more musical. Asian people start slowly, not immediately. But Asian people have strong work ethnics. They usually work hard even they can’t do that. It makes them to catch on soon.”

Clara lived in American and Europe for many years, now she just moved to Hong Kong three months ago. “I stayed in American for 20 years, then I stayed in Spain 15 years. But in that time, most of my work in Asia: Taiwan, Hong Kong, Japan, China, Singapore …… I feel I will have some contributions to Asian and I like Asia! Then I tried to move. I stayed in Philippines first to be my Asia base, then I move to Hong Kong just now.” Clara says.


Behaviors of audiences are also different

Clara says, “I remembered my professor told us, between Boston and New York, if Boston gives you three claps, then you know in New York you will be the biggest hit! So Boston always is a testing around Broadway shows or big productions. Not because it’s necessarily correct, but it shows you would be nervous if audience don’t show lots appreciation.“

Clara explains, “And also, I perform in London as well, and London has another way that they don’t show their feeling in the middle of shows, and in end they go crazy! So from beginning to end, you are very nervous that don’t know if they like you, you just need to believe you are doing your best, then to the end, when you know they are crazy for you, then you are realized.“

“But in Asia,” Clara confesses, “Maybe you will know after the show, or you will never know! For instance, last time when I was in Shanghai, they told me people love my show, and I asked, ‘they did?’ It’s hard to find out.”


Lack appreciation of Art is a problem everywhere

For Dancing Industry, Clara confesses, “There are some things I don’t like. For example, too much politics, but I think many industries have this same problem. Also they lack of appreciate of art. Do not care about the quality of art.

For artist, it’s not selling a product like a machine or fruit, but you are selling your art also it’s a very personal thing. It is about emotion. So when people take it very lightly, just think about numbers. They can’t understand the value of are, and how long you studied, and how much you invested in. All these things when people invite an artist, they don’t think about these. Just think about dollars”

“They should think about it!” Clara explains, “You are not paying me for 10 minutes dance.  You are paying my 30 years studies in my life! People never see that. In contrast, when they didn’t argue about price so badly, it makes me more satisfied because it means they believe you.”

“But it’s not always about money, Sometimes appreciation from audience also can make you satisfied,” Clara continues, “And also I think western audiences much more express their appreciation. Asian audiences are…quieter, not willing, or afraid…I don’t know how to explain it. It’s not their culture to show their feeling. For dancers, it would be more disappointed when they perform in Asia sometimes. They are not willing to show their feelings, or maybe they don’t know HOW to show their appreciation! “

“I had an experience in Taiwan years ago,” Clara says. “I taught basic classes there, and one day when I finished my performance, one audience was shock and told me, ‘Wow! I don’t know you can do that! I thought you just can do basic Flamenco!’ It made me very upset in that time. Sometimes people just want to learn something DIFFICULT directly when they don’t know too much, even they don’t understand why! But I studied to be a teacher for years, and also I had my system. I know how to do is better for them, but they just judged you from this.“


Clara’s next plan: You would never know!

As artists, we are never satisfied.” Clara continues, “Sometimes I just go with the flow, see what will happen. For example, now I’m in Hong Kong, but who knows what will happen in the future? You would never know about the next moment. Everyday is changing, right? Let’s see what is the next !! “